| Posted on August 19th, 2010 by Randy Proto |
![[Facebook]](http://www.randyproto-education.com/wp-content/plugins/bookmarkify/facebook.png)
![[MySpace]](http://www.randyproto-education.com/wp-content/plugins/bookmarkify/myspace.png)
![[Twitter]](http://www.randyproto-education.com/wp-content/plugins/bookmarkify/twitter.png)
![[Email]](http://www.randyproto-education.com/wp-content/plugins/bookmarkify/email.png)
I recently wrote in the Huffington Post about a new proposed regulation, call Gainful Employment.
Larry Penley, former President of Colorado State University posted a comment, and has a post on his blog and on HULIQ about the rule, both of which give a clear, rational view of the issue.
It is an issue that all higher education professionals – faculty, administration, public, private non and for profit need to thoroughly understand. In the end, it will affect all of us, and our students.
It will shift some students out of the postsecondary education system entirely. Some of our highest risk students. More than the Department of Education estimates, due to flaws in both its estimate logic and to unrealistic assumptions that occur based upon a lack of understanding of the mentality and experience of those very students. It will do so based upon measures that do not clearly relate to the success of those students. Not a good tradeoff. It will also eliminate access to education for many lower risk working adults - as it assumes that public education will absorb them. The very structure that many of them made a deliberate choice not to use, as it did not meet their need. By some estimates this group could be 30% or more of students displaced by Gainful Employment .
As proposed, Gainful Employment will apply measures to some schools (for-profit) that other schools (non-profit and public) will fail, but not be required to meet. And, because of this some students will be driven away from institutions they are now choosing, to institutions that have exactly the same outcome – or in some ways and in many cases a worse outcome - for similarly situated (demographically and lifestyle) students.
It’s complex and needs a lot of discussion and refinement.
[...] Proto responded to former President Penley’s post on his Education Blog. Mr. Proto forcefully reiterated his opposition to regulations that “will apply measures to some [...]